Hi, here’s something no one seems to have considered.
You guys and girls (if any) vented and complained,
among more constructive dialogue,
but generally none praised Google (employees) for their hard work.
Didn’t Google did bring up and maintain quite a usable system for highly portable daily driver
communicator / computer / pocket TV / virtual vending machine / etc. (_insert your usage scenario here_) devices,
that most - if not all - of us used throughout the past decade?
You are right, they did (Android was far from great when Google acquired it).
But this is off-topic.
Sounds like a workable solution, but I’m sure Google will search for such loader apps and ban them. This will be a perpetual cat and mouse game, not a long term solution.
The whole wide world praises them, for that wide side does not see the evil it is doing. There is a saying, one bad deed, and you are marked for life. They are doing this evil since a decade (almost, maybe more) now. You do not go back on your words, and start doing nonsense, and then justify it with blst.
roflmao no, nobody knows the people who do the work, they give it all up to google along with any IP rights, even attribution and heck of a lot more to boot, read any IT employment contract, it’s intellectual slavery, and google markets it under its brand, and I’ll tell you from personal experience in the industry most of them aren’t particularly proud of what they are doing there, so yeah sure, thank you very much google employee number 900913 I don’t even know the name of, who probably hates Android’s guts and is sick and tired of having to dig through em all the time, just to meet a deadline of another pointless release that is just a reskin of the previous one with generous sprinkling of bloatware and malware, I hope your six figure salary is enough for you yo retire early, since I know how much you love your job.
& exactly my sarcastic remarks about them being praised above. Five of my extended ++ family members work there, and they so loathe the work they do. Only reason they stick to it is to feed and survive (I guess). Anyways we are going #ot here.
Finding it very odd. Foogle is sponsoring FOSDEM 2026 (has done so earlier as well). Read their so called “motto”
Not sure, how to interpret this statement as!!!
Google believes that open source is good for everyone. By being open and freely available, it enables and encourages collaboration and the development of technology.
Google supports the event financially.
Don’t be evil oh my bad
Google believes that open source is good for everyone that registers with Google and gets approved. By being open and freely available, for registered devs, it enables and encourages collaboration, between registered devs, and the development of technology, for the registered devs.
Google supports the event financially, only for the registered devs.
Right.
Also: Google Issue Tracker
Mr. Vdbhb59,
Should your Foogle’s role be any less doubtful, given the way Proprietary was allowed to proliferate within the FOSS ecosystem with the Apache License instead of the GPL? The Bigger/Biggest system assisted it in its’ objective/motive.
your Foogle primarily licensed the majority of the Android Open Source Project (AOSP) code, excluding the Linux kernel, under the permissive Apache License 2.0
How this approach allowed for a proprietary ecosystem:
Apache 2.0 License:
Apache 2.0 is not GPL.
GPL is “copyleft.”
Apache permits proprietary use.
Companies use AOSP.
They add secret parts.
Example: Play Store.
They sell the product.
They hide their code.
Separation from the Linux Kernel:
Android uses Linux kernel (GPLv2).
Your Foogle complies: shares kernel changes only.
Rest of Android is separate.
It uses Apache 2.0.
This avoids system-wide GPL “copyleft.”
Proprietary Add-ons:
Key Android functions (GMS/Play) are proprietary.
They are licensed strictly by Google to manufacturers.
They are not open-source.
This builds a proprietary ecosystem.
It sits on top of the open-source AOSP foundation.
Therefore:
Your Foogle strategically chose Apache 2.0 for most code.
Software’s modularity allowed combining GPL kernel with permissive/proprietary parts.
Result: a commercially viable, mostly proprietary ecosystem.
The strategy is clever: Getting all earlier FOSS development accomplished with so much of collaborative efforts for Free, while Proprietarising its own, and own ecosystem’s, developed software.
Don’t the deep-thinking programmers/developers realise that the objective of your Foogle is counterintuitive to FOSDEM’s or FOSS’s objective?
Summarised the FOSDEM’s objective below as my notes.
The FOSDEM (Free and Open source Software Developers’ European Meeting) event is an annual, free, and non-commercial gathering for open source software developers to meet, share ideas, and collaborate. The 2026 event is scheduled to take place in Brussels on January 31 and February 1, 2026, at the Campus Solbosch of the Université Libre de Bruxelles (ULB).
The event is primarily funded by sponsors and t-shirt sales. The cornerstone sponsors for the 2026 event include:
It is for the FOSS ecosystem to determine if the participants use GPL or anything else, then sttategise accordingly.
The final outcome is certain: The usage of Tangible/intangible resources to deviate from the objective of the FOSS movement to fulfil the objective of employing the cheapest means for selfish accumulation of resources.
So is the FOSS objective ultimately destined to suffer all the time? The answer is NO, if the Vedantic principle & the Karmic universe is considered.
Wow, agnostic-apollo is a machine! Detailing the flaws!Filing an issue with your foogle! Wow!
Please convey our regards to agnostic-apollo.
Maybe some of your questions will get answered here: thenewstack.io/ffmpeg-to-google-fund-us-or-stop-sending-bugs/
Also, I mean when I say, FOSS and FLOSS maintainers, developers and users are being taken for granted by the trillion MONEY industry and the corporate.
Was this addressed to me?
But I know all the background info. The questions were just rhetorical. For example:
In some of my posts, I have used DS. I hope that I could convey the intended meaning.
Yeah. I forgot to tag you earlier.
Yeah, I know. I just stated for info purposes. Others can benefit from the info. 
Yes, you did.
That is a highly matured gesture full of empathy and compassion, considering about informing others and take others along.
Yes, logically the inference was straightforward, considering that it was from you.
But I am unsure for a couple of others. One alleged that I write like ChatGPT, said that I was reported against, another instructed me not to copy from AI sessions. No subsequent apologies. Decorum absent.
Better to report & record objection, then move on.
I can understand the background behind such thoughts with the civilisational wisdom. The Devasur, DevaDanava, DevaDaitya, etc., sangrams continue incessantly.
There are many epigenetic researches running now dislodging the Aryan Invasion, Aryan migration, Aryan Tourism, et al, proposals, it is now mostly Out-Of-Bharat.
Our records show that we are the oldest living civilisation that still continues, despite all-round effort to take us down.
The Hyenas and the vultures will fail, even when they had some early advantages.
Part of my email signature goes like this:
Euclid Must Fall: The “Pythagorean” “Theorem” and the rant of racist and civilizational superiority
Prof C K Raju
The “Pythagorean” “Theorem” and the rant of racist and civilizational superiority – Part 2 | Arụmarụka: Journal of Conversational Thinking
“Euclid” must fall: The “Pythagorean” “theorem” and the rant of racist and civilizational superiority — Part 1 | Arụmarụka: Journal of Conversational Thinking
https://tinyurl.com/decol-list-new
How the west captured the entire world:
https://www.gilderlehrman.org/history-resources/spotlight-primary-source/doctrine-discovery-1493
https://www.nlm.nih.gov/nativevoices/timeline/171.html
Imagine adding 13 and 17 with Greco-Roman numerals. Everything about the foundations of mathematics, physics, etc., was Bharat.
Bharat was held hostage by employing her own and was sucked dry, crumbling, others used the lull to build up with burgled resources.
The twin hostile groups failed to realise that we are the best recorders, working silently, but relentlessly.
Breaking India. Rajiv Malhotra;
The Case for India, Will Durant;
Unbreaking India, Sanjay Dixit;
The Goan Inquisition, Priolkar,Kakba;
Inquisition at Goa, Gabriel Dellon;
Sati, Meenakshi Jain;
The Myth of Aryan Invasion of India, David Frawley;
Aryan Invasion …, Shiv Sastry;
The Clash of Civilisations, Samuel Huntington;
8 volumes of The history of India : as told by its own historians, Elliot and Dowson;
An Era of Darkness, Shashi Tharoor;
The Beautiful Tree, Dharampal;
The Darkening Age, Catherine Nixey;
The Jesuits in India: In Historical Perspective, Teotonio R. De Souza;
A History of the Inquisition of Spain, Henry Charles Lea;
The Inquisition in Goa: A Critical Study, Alexandre Herculano;
Unbaptised, Esther Dhanraj;
C.S.Lewis’s trilemma:
“Lunatic, Liar, or Lord”, or “Mad, Bad, or God” argument
William Lane Craig - Reasonable Faith
Timothy Keller - The Reason for God: Belief in an Age of Skepticism
Nicholas Thomas Wright - Christian Origins and the Question of God, Vol1,2,3
Vol1:
The New Testament and the People of God
Vol2:
Jesus Victory of God
Vol3:
The Resurrection of the Son of God
The links I am sure would re-educate many. Those battles, and the current battle, … , all are tied to one reason.
BTW, belated thanks on this link:
I didn’t know about this specific link, but I could predict that this is easy as the next step, to crush the FOSS’s limited resources after squeezing out everything from FOSS. The same case as that of Bharat. 
we are building a new advanced flow that allows experienced users to accept the risks of installing software that isn’t verified
So basically the call we had with them, was for namesake? They have not made any changes users have been feeding back, nor our changes, instead they have shamefully continued with their stupid egoistic actions.
WTF!!!
Words: Experienced users..
Well, that might be a good first step, yes
Also, they need to not look like they bowed to pressure, they just “listen to feedback”
Just seen this article and thought I’d share. Please give me a break if its been shared already as I have only read bits and pieces of this gigantic thread as its a topic that concerns me. Here is what I came across:
https://www.androidpolice.com/google-ease-android-verification-rules-keep-sideloading-alive/
Maybe Shizuku is the way moving forward?
…you don’t know that Shizuku is not FLOSS?
…you don’t know that Shizuku needs ADB access first and that would keep 100% of normies away?
yeah, sure, have a break, have a k----
