I’m glad that you found a solution.
I wasn’t referring to using a separate email client as your XMPP client (though that is also possible). I was referring to the fact that some email providers (mailbox.org is one example) offer XMPP accounts too. So if you already had an email account with them, you would not have needed to sign up with a separate service provider.
do note, this server was last updated in Dec 2018 when the Conversations dev was there for a presentation, and never upgraded 
so stuff like calls are missing or not working as they should
Thank you for this valuable info, Mr. Cue, but I removed the mailbox link from my Quote of your reply, as Mr. Licaon_Kter suggested that it has not been upgraded since long.
Please feel free to suggest such XMPP service providers with emailbox. I would welcome and thank such advice.
Another question: Mr. Licaon_Kter and Mr. linsui are shown as F-Droid Contributors, which is an alter. So how does one get such a respectable alter?
I will also like to thank Mr. Licaon_Kter again for patiently replying to my inquisitive posts.
XMPP Chat | Disroot.org to sign up, they do also offer email and other services too. Most are available either with apps or as web/browser interface. And yes, there are windows (and mac and linux) clients for these services too, not just android/iphone versions.
If you don’t need the email but just want the XMPP, there are also
Chat safe on our Jabber server!
blah.im jabber server
When I checked earlier this year, conversations.im was free to make an account and use for the first 6 months, but after that they want you to switch to a paid plan. Not clear if that is still true so best to check into the details.
Some people want to set up an account name like Joe@XYZ_Home_Repair.com instead of joe@conversations.im - they offer that sort of hosting service so Joe can focus on home repair rather than the details of running a server.
If that is not your use case, you might not need the separate hosting.
edit: Almost forgot, if you want to combine email and chat in a different way, check out Delta Chat | F-Droid - Free and Open Source Android App Repository
Not sure what the site says, they update that sparesly, anyway, accounts on the dev server have been free for years, and you can clearly see that in the app start screens.
Thank you, Mr. Freecycler, for your message. Much appreciated. Just one note on your comment:
This appears to many as the most logical aspect, but to me it is misleading. Since the western model has always entangled services with money, like Rockefeller salivating to bill everything under the sun, modern day wokes and LeLis wouldn’t think twice about even billing free air (in fact, they could even poison the air with radioactive waste and then sell you pure air); none offers all services and service assistance on servers and also offer freedom to users’ choice for a full domain name for free.
To keep their perceived revenue flow model alive they will invariably offer one free while billing the other.
Under these circumstances, since the full freedom in domain name selection means zero services, I would eventually remain engrossed in “server maintenance” rather than on my profession of, say, “home repair”.
Eventually, by the time you posted your latest informative post, I had zero-ed in on two services, movim.eu and xmpp.social. Let me check if they suit my objective. Else, I will move to some other service providers.
But I have begun studying disroot.
I thank you all for educating me on this xmpp messenger service. On hindsight I missed a good messaging model for my family and close friends.
I also understand why the jihadis have begun using this tool. Which is why these services should have a backdoor for the national security services to monitor suspicious activities. Yes, there would be excesses, Chelsea Manning, Edward Snowden, Julian Assange, et al, might also suffer. But this is sheer bad coincidence to have been born in difficult environments with a higher order consciousness. Some suffer so that the world may be a little better for these conscious beings.
Of course, once again my thanks for everything, including
Signal has “Signal desktop” for all platforms. Signal >> Signal herunterladen
On CustomROM (Android) I prefer Molly or Molly-FOSS over the Signal app.
Feedback and inputs on my experience with installing Conversations app, Disroot app, ElementsX app and opening accounts in mov.im, xmpp-social and disroot, for whoever it may help:
It appeared to me that in the XMPP open framework, based on the discussions above that I can readily be found by anyone by my username. That I have no real privacy in this framework. That the administrators could theoretically monitor my chats, messages and contents sent over the framework.
While in XMPP, privacy depends on server policies and my configuration.
Public Username: Others can find me using my Jabber ID (username@domain). It's not entirely private unless I configure visibility settings.
Administrator Access: Server admins can theoretically monitor unencrypted messages, but they cannot read end-to-end encrypted chats (e.g., OMEMO encryption).
To enhance privacy, one has to use servers with strong privacy policies, enable encryption, and avoid sharing identifiable information.
There are other factors that sort of unsettled me:
Visibility settings for my Jabber ID depends on my XMPP client. Generally:
Privacy Lists: Set rules to block or allow specific users or groups.
Status Updates: Limit visibility of my status or presence information.
Profile Info: Avoid sharing personal data in my account profile.
Encryption: Use OMEMO or PGP to secure messages.
I have to refer to my client’s privacy or account settings to configure these options.
My next set of questions was:
XMPP is a very public platform. Then what about privacy?For emails, even if someone finds my email-ID and spams me, I can choose to delete and overlook. Is the same possible in XMPP?
What I found was that XMPP can handle spam similarly. If someone spams me:
Block: Use my client to block specific users.
Ignore Requests: Reject contact requests from unknown users.
Report: Inform the server admin if harassment occurs.
Server Settings: Choose servers with anti-spam measures.
While XMPP is public, robust privacy tools are available to manage spam effectively.
There appears to be another problem: There is no emailbox/messagebox to store my emails/messages for future perusal.
XMPP’s confidentiality and privacy depend on server policies and encryption settings. Unlike Telegram or Signal, XMPP does not inherently provide centralized end-to-end encryption. OMEMO can secure chats, but metadata like my Jabber ID may remain visible.
Platforms like Signal offer mandatory E2EE and enhanced metadata protection, which XMPP lacks without careful configuration. Jami, as a fully decentralized platform, further eliminates server reliance, offering greater privacy by design.
So I have decided to be back to Telegram, altering the privacy settings to the max possible, as very few in my acquaintance circle use Signal. Anyway, Signal, as stated earlier, isn’t available simply via web-browser. So, while it remains in my smartphone, I don’t use it.
I deleted all my accounts with the XMPP platform. I am currently checking Jami and will continue to do so in the coming days.
wat? Telegram or Signal store bot sender and receiver users too. Telegram has no encryption for groups.
centralized end-to-end encryption
what is that ?
It needs 3-4 servers to even start, lol
your clients have your messages…
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