Such apps would have been great. I have searched the app list in F-droid. But none appear to have such a complementary web-browser interface.
I may be mistaken. May I be corrected if I am.
I don’t believe there aren’t good programmers than those highly paid ones in proprietary universe. What we seem to lack is the humanity to let people enjoy freedom through Open Source apps.
It appears not only about high(read outrageous) pays, but other humanity-bending enticements as well: multiple vag-bodies, enormous power to spend, resources, etc.
So does the Open Source movement lose out against animal needs?
Strange names do our original programmers choose for such apps. A better name would have been more friendly to travel by mouth, such as digicomm, for Digital Communication. Threema? Not intuitive for English speaking members of the humanity. Does it have a deeper aspect in Romansh, German, French, Italian?
Moreover:
I don’t need encryption. I would let my government track me. We don’t presently have a Left Liberal government that tracks its citizens, unlike the countries with connections to the Deep State.
I am skeptical of products from Switzerland. It is where the Bank Of International Settlements and other secretive monetary institutions are located that stash away black money of tyrants the world over, it is said. Taxation is very high, with values and freedoms like those of the Quarks under confinement.
However, thank you. Your post helped me find the keyword to search with one string: messaging. I have found a host of apps and am reading the fine prints.
What I intend to use is one Android app, say Conversations, but no desktop installation of programs such as Dino. I would rather have a web interface like I have said earlier, like I presently use the popular apps such as Telegram or Whatsapp from my laptop’s web-browser like Firefox. Currently, we use the web interface for the said two smartphone apps by various logging-in methods like QR code or One-time OTP.
Installation of a desktop program means spending my time for upkeep and maintenance of that program separately. A web-interface does away with the need to install an accompanying/separate desktop program.
I noticed that Telegram is already in F-Droid as Telegram-FOSS which can be used as a web interface too, so my need is nearly fulfilled. Another such program might have helped.
Question:It would be nice to learn if the Telegram-FOSS from F-Droid is virtually the same as Telegram-FOSS from Google PlayStore. Logically, it shouldn’t be, removal of Google tracking code is expected in the FOSS version. But will removal of the PlayStore version and then installing the FOSS version erase my Telegram conversation history?
I also observed that F-Droid recognises the Telegram installed in my smartphone from the Google Android Playstore. It doesn’t propose Installation. It proposes Open.
Earlier whatsapp was alright. But presently it pushes Meta-AI down my throat. I don’t want it. But can’t remove it. It interferes with my search. It doesn’t allow me print multi-page pdf digital print of my conversations. I have no such issues with the web Telegram interface.
I am considering progressively eliminating the use of whatsapp from my smartphone.
So my next questions would necessarily begin with: Has conversations an accompanying web-interface? Any F-Droid app other than Telegram that does?
I am so new to this Matrix idea that I have to learn about it in depth. How does this chat ecosystem generate revenue for its operations, maintenance, etc., other than donations? Maintaining a complete system needs money.
IRC = Revolution IRC Client?
This appears to be a Generational shock. I will take some time to absorb this.
Thank you too, Mr.ferry2323, for replying to one of my earlier posts.
Don’t mix up clients and protocols. F-Droid is an app store for Android. It has nothing to do with web clients. Matrix and IRC have web clients. They are not related to F-Droid.
Yes, of course. But I have to use an app from my android smartphone to access these services, haven’t I?
Thank you for your intent to educate me. Much appreciated.
You just need to choose a protocol. Then if you want to use it on Android, you can install a client for it on Android. If you want to use it in browser, you can choose a web client hosted by yourself or someone else. You can use Element Android and Element Web. You can also use Fluffychat Android and SchildiChat Web. Same for IRC. You can choose whatever IRC client. That’s not related to the web client.
Thank you, Mr. linsui, for your effort to educate me.
Let me rephrase your statements for my own understanding. You mean to say to me?: You could choose whichever (either for the Matrix or the IRC protocol) client program for the system that you are currently using, on either your laptop, desktop or smartphone, and those clients could be unrelated to the web client for the either protocols.
If I have rephrased correctly according to you, it would mean that I have a hang of the idea you wish to transfer to me. I understood from your earlier posts, but now we are on the same page.
But I hope you appreciate that while with a long experience these utilities appear very easy to you, for me it is just the beginning, and that I would have to allow some time for these utilities to sink in properly.
To continue with my learning, which of the two protocols, according to you, is better, more modern and wider in terms of the range of utilities each provide and allow?: i.e., plain text, formatted text, files as attachments, voice call, video call, etc.
Yes, by this time, with studies, I found that
Matrix supports all: text, file sharing, voice calls, and video calls natively.
IRC is mostly text-focused, requiring add-ons for extras.
I have already created an account from my laptop and installed Element X from F-Droid installer and ran it from my Android smartphone. While installing I was cautioned that Element has features that I won’t like, such as proprietary bits.
it actually said: "AntiFeatures: NonFreeNet: Each chat has an “Add Matrix apps” button which by default links to the proprietary scalar.vector.im integration manager service." right?
This app promotes or depends entirely on a non-free network service
… and then your lines, having the word: proprietary.
Anyway, let us ignore this issue, since I haven’t installed this app.
In the meanwhile I have also installed conversations. I am asked if I have an XMPP account. Which of the messengers that I used create this account: whatsapp, Signal, Telegram, etc.?
No, besides the non-free stuff removed you CAN’T make a new account with it. Only the “official version” allows that, it’s a Telegram service limitation.
Meaning? With the proprietary Telegram installed from Google Playstore I have an account with OTP generated from my snartphone, and I can also access that account from my laptop.
Do you mean I won’t be able to access this account from F-Droid Free Telegram app?
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