What email provider FOSS guys would recommend today?

This is because it it’s sole purpose is to simply give you notifications for Proton mail (in the case you do not wish to rely/are not comfortable with relying on Google for your notification delivery)

As such there isn’t really many options they could give. Other than how frequently they poll the server for potential notifications.

Of course this is also means if you are not a Proton Mail user the app is currently useless. They may change that someday however and add more options. As far as I’m aware any kind of progress towards that is still unknown likely because the purpose is rather niche cause most email providers either

  • Don’t rely on GMS
  • Don’t have a mobile app to begin with
  • Are so proprietary and not private to the point it’s irrelevant whether they do or not

Proton is just a rare exception (in regards to email at least) to these where they do have a Open Source app and are relatively private by most people’s standards but do have their app reliant on GMS. Which is why I can see why Proton was probably a key motivator in why this app was developed cause Proton is often pitched as a private more user respecting alternative to a lot of major Google Products. Whether it succeeds in doing that or not is up to anyone’s judgment but that is a topic for another day. Case point being it’s rather ironic for a service that claims to be alternative to a service depending on a different service of the company they claim to be a alternative to lol.

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gmx is nicht gut. They are financed by adverts and for that they read all your mails in and out. Have a look at Tuta or Protonmail, although they don’t offer IMAP. Either webmail or app. If you are prepared to pay 1€/month, which I would recommend, you can go for mailbox.org or posteo.

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Thank you ALL for information.

I’ve set up gmx just for big, alternative storage. Set up Mega for alternative, non sensitive data too :grin: I’ve recalled of Box and Dropbox I’ve set up long time ago - but that’s only for storage too.

I’ve set up Proton intended for daily email use, now taking bonuses for tasks. Just in 2 days I’ve reached 1 GB for email and 5 GB drive in place of initial 500MB+2GB. Their email app looks clean and useful, not bloated like big, smelly G.

Any tips how to increase Proton storage even more WO payment???

Btw would you use Proton pass???

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It’s definitely one of the better password managers out there but does have some drawbacks. My pitch would be if you were already using a cloud based password manager beforehand. Then sure Proton Pass likely wouldn’t be significantly worse in any aspect and should be fine.

If you were not however then some words of advice.

Aside from the obvious of the con of putting all of your eggs in one basket where if you use proton pass that means if someone compromises your account they get access to both your email and your passwords and any other proton data. Of note however there is a option to set a secondary account password in your account settings. (Think you might have to use the website version to access it.) I don’t think Proton has access to that secondary password which will greatly bolster account security. However that also means that they cannot recover your data if you forget that password. As always be careful and plan accordingly to how you want to do things cause while the added security is good it is not for everyone which AFAIK is why the secondary password option is opt in.

Anyways as for the secondary con they only allow you to setup 3 account 2FA codes on the free plan. So if you’re like me where you like to enforce 2FA on every account you have you will need to get a alternative solution for that.

Regardless I don’t use proton pass as my main password manager. I just use it whenever I make accounts with my proton email or I want to make use of their email aliases as they have a really nice and easy way to generate them.

So, as I said here, I host it on a root server, with Hestia Control Panel. I was on shared hosting earlier (where spam was in abandon), but now I have my own server. Dedicated IP, which thankfully is clean as well.

I have had this for approximately an year now, and running very smoothly.

Roundcube (UI), Exim & Dovecot (mail server), Bind (DNS).

K-9 on android & Betterbird on both linux & windows.

Never faced any issues since I moved out to my own server.

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Thank you for your very valuable insight and reassuring experience! I will get to researching these as soon as I am able! :+1:

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Let me know if you need any help. Will be more than happy to do so. :slight_smile:

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We are speaking from different Posteo. In all the years that i wisdom from that, i no see any Option that are payed extra for this. All Features are for all and he have no Plans. Only one. You can add more Space, Alias, or Calendars but no extended Features.

I don’t have seeing news from many hacked Accounts from their. Have you maybe any Article for this extra Features, or Hackings, …?

I’ve been using FairMail for a while. It does OK. Is Tuta significantly better? Word is that the predatory google/alphabet monopoly is moving to eliminate F-Droid. Perhaps it’s time to replace google/alphabet’s Android with something they can’t manipulate?

No mate. Same one.
That time they did not allow 2FA for me. Everything was on emails and I only had Posteo as main email then. Moreover, when I had reached out to them upon my email being hacked, they confirmed that there was a lot of noise from several other users with the same complaint.

Unfortunately, I do not have any of those emails as after few days of back and forth my email password changed fully and I could no longer access it. Thankfully for me, I had deleted all emails by then, and exported too. But with my disk crashing 3 years ago, I lost everything from then.

So I cannot show you any proofs, but only my words for it and I only know what happened with me.

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FairMail is only an app.

You wanted to say Fastmail?

If you are fully committed to free software, then there is only one option that I can recommend: Mailcow/Servercow Servercow They are the only one that actually runs a completely free software stack that you can easily run yourself, or pay for one of their hosted options. @f-droid.org runs on Servercow.

If you want good support for free software clients, then Tuta is next best. They are a long time supporter of F-Droid. Then there is Proton and Fastmail. They are solid, standards-based email providers but are proprietary services with proprietary clients. You can use them with clients from f-droid.org though.

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Tuta and Proton do not use standards-based protocols.

Only Tuta has its client in F-Droid.

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There can’t be ONLY ONE. We need to have a choice.

Like I stated few comments above.

They use SMTP for sure :wink: Proton supports IMAP and POP3, for example:

And Fastmail supports IMAP, POP3, and helps develop the JMAP standard.

The last time I tried Proton Bridge under Linux it was a terrible mess, the opposite of reliable.

Yes and no, I can’t use K9 with Tuta or with a free Proton account, I need a paid one and a always on server to run the bridge. :person_shrugging:

+1 for Posteo.

did have some issues with temporary (30 minutes) outages about 10 years ago.
Never had any issues as grave as @vdbhb59 did. But the two times I needed their support I was helped quite promptly.

I just looked at the servercow page. Am I correctly understanding that they only offer a completely free, self-hosted, version - that requires docker?