Agree with justsomeguy. On your device, without knowledge , root , simple you cant.
Android 12 have in the playservice+google apps more than 500 background process. Some of them start also if you disable the entire app. Then , some service are capable to bypass you personal DNS. To put the hands on those devices is a hell.
Basically those phones do what they want.
Do you want know how the things works for those companies?
Try to read this: https://www.scss.tcd.ie/Doug.Leith/pubs/additional_material_neversleepingears.pdf
The alternative is a product already cleaned and in any case you’ll need some experience to finish the job of protect yourself by those parasites.
Avoid famous brand.
The Volla phone X is technologically old but a good compromise just in case.
torify is deprecated in favor of torsocks
On my GNU/Linux system, and hopefully on most modern ones:
torify is now just a wrapper around torsocks(1) for backwards compatibility.
but the “isolate” option sounds like a good one. Thanks!
Doug Leith article
That article is badly flawed and unfairly biased in favor of one organization, and against another. It was not peer reviewed. It was not published in a journal. The assumptions were not “even” and they ignored data leaked to other 3rd parties. Search Nervuri issues if interested in (edit: part of) what they ignored. Edit: They also ignored what happens when users install apps that require microg, or popular apps such users will likely install.
Thanks for the advice. I’ll read it soon as possible. https://nervuri.net/ right?
I just fall in the Samsung trap because the pen (Note series) .
In real now I don’t trust any big company, any .
About that article, I can just have some assumption on the Samsung side. Checking the connection and services in background in my phone and tracking the ips I ended to discover it around the web.
Seems that people is totally anesthetized and trapped in their self. This is sad but seems that we bring with us that part of the nature where we want to be guided by someone else than us. Nothing , introspection absent.
Can you link me some more specific articles (or similar) that uncovers those kind of issues?
(ps: one guy - devel - on Xda , told me that google and samsung can bypass the dns setting by their choice if they consider relevant do that. He patched the code but won’t share it publicly because otherwise it will come patched in no time in the next release). Geez , we are a few bunch of people that try to think , the other billion don’t care anything more than the color of the icons…
Sorry for the speculation , are just too many days I try to understand what going on around those arguments and the prospectives are not good , time waisted , energy lost.
Yeah, It doesn’t make sense, why have a cell phone then? 
Truth in advertising, I do too (use a phone without SIM). Some reasons:
- already own it
- prefer smaller screen size
- fits in pockets better than tablet
- how many phone numbers and phone services does one person need?!
- WiFi or Bluetooth or wired or shared/tethered connections are widely available
- can make emergency service calls, in case of emergency
- If librem 5 or pinephone, you can switch off modems.
Unfortunately, “rooted” sometimes means user has super user powers, sometimes means (poor usage IMO) installing a custom ROM. IDK which you mean, but assumed the second. To improve a standard, vendor OS significantly is not feasible IMO, because you will likely disable so much, you break things you want to work.
Edit: This recent post describes a four fold path some have taken: Difficulty for dunce to setup an account to download F-Droid apk - #13 by TheLastProject
Truely if you want privacy try pine phone pro with your linux os and it is far better than the most devices.
For other devices.
Now rooting device gives a better privacy but i don’t recommend that cause most of the time users makes mistakes and that cause major issues and removal of stuffs in which there are some dependencys that sometimes track you and removing stuff can break os.
You follow my older comment was a good start if you can’t switch to pine phone or install graphene or calx os
Volla Phone/X is a literal compromise.
They use a very old BSP afact.
X is using Linux 4.9.190 released August 25th 2019
Non-X is using Linux 4.4.146 released August 6th 2018.
Either that or they are not publishing newer kernels, leaning them towards GPL violation territory.
Yep , do you know a good alternative that offer newer hardware , a decent battery and could use eventually other system than android? (for ubuntu touch maybe this is the best alternative also if is still lagghy and bugghy).
I’m in difficult to choose (suggest) a device that is degoogled and at the same time powerful and “modern”.
The Volla X run from 1/3 to 1/10 of my N20U (and lack in several hardware spec) but have a clean system and big battery.
ubports uses the same kernels on that device and in general doesn’t even support disk encryption 
Edit:
no one in the community can even easily rebase that repo to a newer Linux kernel because it has squashed commit history.
and all the other kernels used by ubports are the same story, extremely outdated kernels fork from Lineage
I’m surprised no one mentions this - UPDATE to the latest Android security release updates - if not, maybe consider getting a Librem phone or Pinephone or other Linux phone. A lot of security updates recently:
@programmin1
Yes, great idea, spend $1,300 on a phone with potato specs, isn’t daily drivable, and lacks any meaningful security.
hxxps://shop.puri.sm/shop/librem-5/
Librem 5
From: $1,299.00
Backorder shipping resumes October 2021. Lead time for new orders: 52 weeks.
You can literally buy two Pixel 6 phones with tax for less.
It has the specs to run everything but the largest memory hog programs (not going to run Netbeans or Eclipse very often on it I suppose lol?), and being Linux that is not likely to change.
“Daily drivable” is debatable, but there is a working camera and map app on it now.
“Lacks any meaningful security”? This phone has several things that are really good and fairly unique and good security measures -
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The separation of cpu and radio chipset - if you read the security article linked you can see there are more qualcom chipset security issues - these would be mitigated from exposing memory in the cpu if they are separate chips - at a cost of some battery life.
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Hardware switches for the wifi/mic/4g - and easily accessible on the side.
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Cannot run Fakebook or Instagram or any other apps that are known to cause mental harm and time wasting not to mention privacy issues…
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And most importantly, it actually gets updates on a regular basis, through the software upgrader just like on a Linux laptop.
Not long ago the Librem USA-build was about $1000, and years before, the Librem standard was around $599.
Justsomeguy,
I think your concerns about trackers originate from the odysee website.
As for SIMless phones: nobody makes a well-supported (for custom firmware) tablet or phablet that fits in a regular pocket these days. Unless you use older devices (I do). It’s also hard enough finding well-supported devices that can take an AOSP ROM. Limiting the choices to just tablets makes it even harder. So phones are used.
I personally don’t like that phones can connect to the phone network. I don’t want to even be able to call emergency or make any contact with anyone outside my small circle. I don’t like the sneaky backdoors of the phone network. Yet more spy code we can’t remove. Ideally i want no possible connection to the phone network.
Nobody has yet made a usable low cost tablet or mini-tab that fits in regular pockets. So I use phones (with removable batteries).
Rob Braxman is selling his own phone. No hardware switches and no removable batteries and no low cost makes me not interested, but for some it might be worth a look.
This phone is not for you if you think lile that.
This is for those who knows what it is what it for and what it do.
If you want a phone for playing pubg or asphalt then this is not for you do understand.
This is a specific device for investigative journalist and activists who carry a life risk or life someone who is working against a corrupt govt and have risk of govt thrd.
If you want a phone with linux pinephone is a good option around $300 it should be good with privacy and with a good specs and you can try new linux os which are under so much development you can try this with a any linux os. All are phone ready gnome to kde all of them ported there apps into mobile mode also.
I think your concerns about trackers originate from the odysee website.
Braxman’s home page points to you tube for videos.
His what the zuck site uses google syndication.
His creator spring “Merch” site is filled with Amazon stuff, and more.
He uses twitter like all the tweeters.
brax live uses gstatic
He has an app. On iAppStore and Google play… not F-Droid.
His blog is on medium. It uses cloudflare insights AND google analytics.
I won’t call it “fraud” but to me it smells stinky at best. At least he also lists an xmpp channel.
@programmin1
Linux phones…
Cannot run Fakebook or Instagram or any other apps that are known to cause mental harm and time wasting not to mention privacy issues…
Uhm. Some GNU/Linux distros have lots of software for those, and there’s always the web browser interface…
pinephone
With postmarketOS and add-on keyboard battery it lasts more than a day, and phone calls and sms/mms even work, with some tweaking. Lack of offline navigation and occasional freezes are negatives, however.
Such a sound. The coherence is always more an optional in those days and is convenient for the most.
Yes i find that somedays ago can’t remember where they are working on a offline feature for gnome maps
And truely even manjaro with kde on mobile and mobian is also good
Edit i forgot about ububtu touch and selfish also suse. It is really becoming a very very good option for those who don’t want to use android and those lock env and spy stuff.
Librem-5
You can literally buy two Pixel 6 phones with tax for less.
Think of the extra as a donation to support developing something different. Who do you want to support with your phone purchases, the G66gle Empire or something different?
Purism lost a LOT of cred’ when they over-promised and under-delivered. I wouldn’t buy one either at that price and delivery time, but they are trying to DO a LOT, and it isn’t free as in beer.